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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on September 26, 2004 11:24 pm
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A sidewalk pitchman (Ed Wynn) makes a bargain with Mr. Death.
Originally aired October 9, 1959. Full video of the episode on CBS.com TZ Cafe credits list List of musical cues This is the preferred thread for any and all of your "One For The Angels" posts--facts, opinions, questions, speculations, and whatever else you can think of.* You may also give your opinion of the episode on a 1 to 10 scale, in the poll shown above. Let the discussion begin! *More specific instructions and suggestions about posting questions/comments related to this episode are located here. -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| Dan Hollis |
Posted on October 09, 2004 08:06 pm
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There's an interesting omission from the script as published in TZ Magazine in what was actually produced, although it's included in the short story treatment by Anne Serling-Sutton, Rod's daughter. In Lew's conversation in his apartment with Death, he's supposed to say, "I won second prize last year at the YMHA flower show." This makes it likely that Lew is Jewish. Perhaps it was considered too risky in 1959 to establish such ethnicity to that extent without a specific purpose. The only TZ character actually called a Jew is Ernst Ganz in "He's Alive," and that's because he's a concentration camp survivor. Alfred Becker in "Deaths-Head Revisited" is not so explicitly identified.
No character's surname is stereotypically Jewish, either, except presumably the pawnbroker in "Caesar and Me." (It's "Goldstein's Loan Co.," but that's no guarantee that it's Mr. Goldstein we meet.) One could argue for "Weiss" in "The Shelter," but note that this family's ethnic background, although foreign, is not identified. Fortunately such shackles seemed to have disappeared by the time Night Gallery arrived, most notably in "The Messiah on Mott Street." -------------------- Thanks to Dr. Moreau for surprising me with this signature. It beats peach brandy!
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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on October 11, 2004 01:19 pm
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***SPOILERS AHEAD***
A few of my favorite things here: 1) Enjoying Ed Wynn, especially in an episode with children. 2) The eerie moment when an eight-year-old child addresses Death, sitting in what seems to be an empty chair (Death is like Scotch tape; you can't see it, but you know it's there). 3) Mr. Death portrayed as essentially an accountant, with a delicate balance of humor and menace. 4) Last but not least, the stock music, each piece of which seems perfectly chosen. It's been pointed out many times that Lew Bookman (Ed Wynn) isn't convincing as a naturally spellbinding salesman. Maybe Mr. Death is pretending to be more spellbound than he is, a possibility that Dan Hollis has pointed out previously. My own theory is that the other angels (Death is an angel, right? The Angel of Death?) gave Lew an invisible assist when he needed it. Currently in my Top 10. -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| Anthony |
Posted on October 14, 2004 06:55 pm
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Good theory, I agree, since Lew wanted his pitch to be so big it would be one for the angels. |
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| Jayo |
Posted on October 14, 2004 07:17 pm
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A good episode. I like it. Ed Wynn's pitch never fails to crack me up, especially when he's spinning the yarn (pun intended) about the birds smuggling the silk into the country.
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| craigstyx |
Posted on October 14, 2004 11:01 pm
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currently Now that's exactly why I love the TZ. The top 10 changes with the times and mood. I have to disagree with the "invisible assist" to Lew. He's |
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| Dan Hollis |
Posted on October 19, 2004 11:59 am
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Thanks for the reminder. You asked for an opinion of this episode's score on 5D, but that board disappeared before I could answer. Evaluating a score comprised of stock cues is a different matter from judging one composed for a specific episode. As a example of the latter, Jerry Goldsmith had a concept in mind for "Back There." He made it consistently haunting, and its use of harpsichord gives it a Victorian mood suitable for 1865, as well as the 1961 scenes in being both a precursor and, later on, a reminder that we went a century backwards along with Peter Corrigan. Bernard Herrmann also wrote a time travel score, his for "Walking Distance," but in his case he made it properly nostalgic and often melancholy. For an episode like "One for the Angels," we have to take a different approach in evaluation, one that answers two separate questions: 1. How well chosen are the cues? 2. What is the quality of the cues as entities in themselves? In general, I think "very well" answers the first question throughout the series, and "One for the Angels" is no exception. I once asked on 5D who was responsible for the choices. Popular sentiment led to Lud Gluskin, but I don't know whether this has been definitely established. The only problem I have is with the single chord first heard when Rod announces the name "Mr. Death" and repeated as a Death motif of sorts (when Lew sees Death in his room, when Death kills the flower, etc.). This is too much of a cliche for me, at least the frequency of its use. (I believe Paul identified this as a Herrmann cue, although I don't remember the name. If you're reading this, Paul, please elaborate.) On the other hand, I admire the scene when Maggie is hit (out of our sight) by the truck. The cliche would be for the Death chord or at least some gesture by the character, such as a hand wave or head nod. Instead, he's virtually motionless, and there's no musical cue at all. If Death could really be personified, I imagine this is exactly how he'd act. As for the second question, each cue really deserves its own answer. As I'm not at all familiar with some of them, I don't feel qualified to remark on what I don't know. Nevertheless, one significant source of TZ cues deserves acknowledgment, and that is Herrmann's Outer Space Suite. It was composed in 1957 for the CBS Music Library, apparently for stock purposes only as opposed to composition for a specific teleplay and later recycled. This is available as an 11-track sequence in the TZ 40th Anniversary Collection CDs. Here are some of the places where Outer Space Suite is heard in "One for the Angels," preceded by the cue titles: "Prelude": When Death is thinking over Lew's Pitch for the Angels request. (It sounds like the same kind of "think music" made famous by Jeopardy!) "Time Suspense": When Lew is making his Pitch for the Angels. The twinkly music when midnight strikes and the toy spaceman starts moving is part of the same cue. Notice how appropriate this cue name is for the situation, even though, aside from the toy spaceman, the episode has nothing to do with outer space. It's also heard during the bidding in the card game in "Third from the Sun." "Starlight": When Lew and Death walk down the street as Rod delivers his closing narration, actually starting a few seconds beforehand. Here are some other Outer Space Suite cues and their use in other episodes: "Signals": While Pip is laughing at the end of "A Nice Place to Visit." As Paul pointed out on 5D, this is actually just a few seconds of "Signals" played several times in succession. "Space Drift": When Rocky and Pip visit the Hall of Records in "A Nice Place to Visit," also heard in the scene following the crash in "People Are Alike All Over." "Danger": When the Sturkas and Ridens drive up to the gate in "Third from the Sun." "Moonscape": As Lanser enters the dining room in "Judgment Night," and a different section of the same cue right before the crash in "People Are Alike All Over." The other Outer Space Suite cue titles are "Space Stations," "Airlock," "Tycho," and "The Earth." Any or all of these may have TZ use that escapes my memory at present. It would be interesting to create an episode scored entirely from Outer Space Suite with cue titles that completely match the action, as if the score had been written for the episode instead of vice versa. -------------------- Thanks to Dr. Moreau for surprising me with this signature. It beats peach brandy!
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| LeenZone |
Posted on October 19, 2004 12:07 pm
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Middle of the road for me. The only thing that saves it for me is Wynn's pitch.
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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on October 20, 2004 11:25 am
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Thanks for the info, Dan, but actually I was wondering how much you liked listening to the music in this episode when I asked this (in an e-mail, I think, not on the board, but I could be wrong). I don't expect you to jump up right now and play your copy of the episode, of course. You don't have to answer at all, for that matter. And no, I certainly wouldn't expect a cue-by-cue review. I like the "Mr. Death" chord myself (which, if I remember correctly from the Herrmann message board, was written for a pilot called "The House On K Street"), but I understand how it could seem cliched. The "Starlight" cue is my favorite. It reminds me a little of Marius Constant's "whee-dee-dee-dee" TZ theme (the notes are different, but the note pattern is the same), and has some of the same eerieness, but is more sentimental-sounding. I think it's a beautiful piece of music that's perfectly suited for that spot in the episode. I wish I had written it. In the interest of respecting everyone's opinion in a free-flowing discussion, feel free to disagree with any of the above if you want (i.e., don't worry about raining on my parade -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| Halifax |
Posted on October 21, 2004 09:28 pm
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I like this one a lot. Just short of classic though. I give it an 8.
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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on November 05, 2004 11:13 pm
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According to this article by Bill Wrobel (http://www.comcen.com.au/~agfam/rundowns/kstreet.pdf), the cue is called "Fade-In." Wrobel also says, or at least implies, that CBS music editor Gene Feldman picked the cues for "One For The Angels." The last time I read this article--quite a while ago--I either skipped over this line or, based on my understanding (at that time) of the "Eye Of The Beholder" section in Zicree's book that this was Lud Gluskin's job, just ignored it. By the way, Wrobel also mentions that the "Mr. Death" chord is a minor chord with a major 7th (example: C-Eb-G-B ). Now, with a suitable musical instrument, you can create the sound of Death in your own home. This article talks about the "Outer Space Suite": http://www.comcen.com.au/~agfam/rundowns/outerspace.pdf. The main Wrobel site is here: http://www.filmmusic.cjb.net/. -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| whitsbrain |
Posted on February 21, 2005 08:06 am
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Ed Wynn's "Mr. Bookman" character is fun. His sales pitch really doesn't seem very convincing. I guess that's most likely due to the fact that Ed Wynn wouldn't make much of a real world salesman.
The ending is predictable, but it is intended to be. This is an average episode, which is why I gave it a 5. -------------------- ![]() |
| lazyboyx51 |
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This one merits an '8' from me. I enjoy Wynn's performance, as well as Murray Hamilton (as Mr. Death). I, too, love the chord played when Mr. Death makes his presence - adds to the mood. I think the episode is very good, predictable, but nevertheless a good one overall. The final pitch was fun to watch - a bit extraordinary to see how Mr. Death falls apart.
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| SteveJ |
Posted on April 14, 2005 08:57 pm
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The low-key nature of Bookman's final pitch works for me. I can't explain why--only that something more energetic or emotional would be so out of character for Bookman.
I love every performance of Ed Wynn's that I've ever seen. Here's an interesting tidbit from his IMDb page: "Wynn was originally slated to play the title role in MGM's "The Wizard Of Oz". He turned the part down .....believing it was "way too small ...."!" What a shame... |
| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on June 16, 2005 04:38 pm
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Hey, this is currently the most popular TZ episode on my poll at RateItAll.com. More than anything, this indicates that there have been very few votes thus far. From left to right you can see episode ranking, episode title, average episode rating on a 1 to 5 scale, and number of votes so far.
1. "One For The Angels" (4.78) (9) T2. "Time Enough At Last" (4.75) (8) T2. "Nick Of Time" (4.75) (4) T2. "Perchance To Dream" (4.75) (4) T2. "The Lonely" (4.75) (4) 6. "The Midnight Sun" (4.67) (6) 7. "It's A Good Life" (4.64) (11) 8. "Walking Distance" (4.63) (8) 9. "Living Doll" (4.60) (10) T10. "The Dummy" (4.50) (6) T10. "The Invaders" (4.50) (6) T10. "Four O'Clock" (4.50) (2) T10. "The Last Flight" (4.50) (2) T10. "The Lateness Of The Hour" (4.50) (2) Please rate some episodes here if you would like to. Besides providing pleasure for yourself, you might help to increase the number of people who see this board. My Twilight Zone "WebList" is chock full of links to the TZ Cafe, and the more activity it gets, the more likely it is to be listed as one of the site's "Hot" WebLists. The more time it spends as one of the "Hot" WebLists, the more people are likely to see it--and, possibly, the links to the Cafe. Here's the link: http://www.rateitall.com/t-12115-twilight-...nal-series.aspx. -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| adamgrant |
Posted on June 17, 2005 10:28 am
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my take on bookman's pitch is this:
being a pitchman, bookman should know his audience and potential buyer. this mr death guy seemed unimpressed with bookman and his trade, but bookman being the pitchman he is, knows what to offer his mark and how to do it. now, granted this pitch would not necessarily work on the average person, but mr death is no average person. seems he's a type a personality regarding his job and when bookman pitches he's enthralled at once by the wonders of the 'silk' ties. hey.. just my opinion.. makes the episode more enjoyable to me. -------------------- |
| TZ DZ Fan |
Posted on June 21, 2005 02:28 am
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Leen wrote.......... Middle of the road for me. The only thing that saves it for me is Wynn's pitch. "5" ==================================================== While I agree that this isn't necessarily my "type" Zone, I like it nonetheless. I have always gravitated towards the sci-fi type stories and how they captured my imagination. But as I get older, (34), I also am a little more soft-hearted and sentimental. You mean it doesn't tug at your heart at least a little that he's trying to save the little girl? I agree maybe its not a 10, but I'm leaning towards a 7+. It says I have already voted in this poll. I think it would be so cool if I could go back and see how I voted. Alot of people here say how their top episodes change a little from time to time. This would be a good way to reflect. Thank you and good night. TZ DZ Fan |
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| Dan Hollis |
Posted on June 21, 2005 09:23 am
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Who wouldn't be dying if it hadn't been for Lou's attempt to cheat Death in the first place! All right, though, I'm still touched, and a tear frequently comes to my eye when Lew gently says, "Thank God!" -------------------- Thanks to Dr. Moreau for surprising me with this signature. It beats peach brandy!
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| damin mance |
Posted on July 18, 2005 12:41 am
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i hate this episode!!!!
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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on September 17, 2005 02:00 pm
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Dan also mentions the YMHA reference here in a post about the TZ radio dramas. The radio drama version of "One For The Angels" includes that reference. Dan also says something similar to what he says in this thread: It appears that when the televised episode was produced, someone (Rod?) might have thought it unwise in less enlightened times to include a Jewish character when it wasn't essential to the story (unlike "He's Alive," for example). ***SPOILER*** I've thought of a more specific problem with making Bookman explictly Jewish, especially during the early days when Rod was (presumably, and also somewhat evidently) trying to be as non-controversial as possible while establishing the series: Showing a non-Christian about to go to heaven would no doubt have annoyed some members of some Christian groups. It's worth pointing out that many TZ characters that aren't explictly Jewish aren't explicitly White Anglo-Saxon Protestant either, including Becker in "Death's Head," Les Goodman in "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street," Marty Weiss in "The Shelter," Nate the pawnbroker in "A Passage For Trumpet," Mr. Castle in "The Man In The Bottle," and any number of characters in "The Bard." -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| Howard L |
Posted on September 20, 2005 11:57 am
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But as I get older, (34), I also am a little more soft-hearted and
sentimental. I know there's a whole pop psychology school devoted to the topic of how feelings about the same thing evolve as we grow older...let me just say your comment serves as a retort to anyone young (choose the age range) who is now looking at TZ for the first time and sneering, "ho-hum, what else is new". The universality of human feelings that Serling tapped into is simply timeless even if cynicism and harshness creep into cinematic direction and content. And the fact that his so-called adult pictures touched so many young children, an unexpected phenomenon commented on by Buck Houghton in the Zicree book, well, this bespeaks an incredibly attained level of engagement to which a select few television artists can only aspire. ANYWAY, the Hamilton and Wynn performances alone make this episode worth seeing. And the closing repartee between them is such sheer humility that even the most hard of heart should be moved. Evaluating a score comprised of stock cues is a different matter from judging one composed for a specific episode.... What an excellent music appreciation primer you have introduced, Dan. And to think the late great Mr. Mancini had to ask, "Did they mention the music?" |
| HowlingMan |
Posted on September 23, 2005 10:10 pm
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I could never understand what Death would want with silk...
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| MichaelBiehnObsession |
Posted on October 12, 2005 02:40 pm
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When I first saw this episode, I really disliked it. It has grown on me, however. I think it's most compelling component is lovable Ed Wynn.
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| damin mance |
Posted on December 07, 2005 07:32 pm
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ok i sat down to really watch this episode and i love it its very funny
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| damin mance |
Posted on December 08, 2005 02:14 pm
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i like mr death
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| Mr.ZONE |
Posted on December 10, 2005 04:47 am
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TZ DZ, I too put this in the 7+ category. I love the title, heaven rules.
The story is sentimental, which is unusual in the zone. I like heart-warming affairs, and this delivers... Its main downfall for me is it drags, and I found Mr. Death yes likeable, but not my concept of death, which perhaps the episode was shooting for, did not work for me. Perhaps " Silk" is a representation of any item that Bookman could pitch, its a just a variable in a very complicated and divine quadratic formula. Bookman is a good Man in my Book. Thanks,ZR MrZ |
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| TZGeek |
Posted on December 10, 2005 12:21 pm
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Yes, Mr. Z, I agree that 7 is about right for this episode. The writing in this one isn't nearly as polished as in "Nothing in the Dark", but it's still an enjoyable segment.
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| damin mance |
Posted on December 10, 2005 02:33 pm
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a 10 from me
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| TZGeek |
Posted on December 10, 2005 02:35 pm
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I thought you used to hate this episode!? -------------------- Thanx, Doctor M!!
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| damin mance |
Posted on December 10, 2005 02:47 pm
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i really didn't sit down and watch it thats why i said that but i did and i love it
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| Mr.ZONE |
Posted on December 11, 2005 10:03 pm
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IM, you are right on the quality of the writing. With all due respect, I find the writing of NITD fine, the episode is a tad slow for me. Mr. Mance, do you think it was symbollic how Mr. Death was sitting in the chair? Thanks Mr. Z |
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| DrMoreau |
Posted on December 17, 2005 05:03 pm
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I always loved this episode - 'course I always loved Ed Wynn. Uncle Albert in Mary Poppins, fairy Godfather in Cinderfella, and of course - The Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland. Brilliant comedian and always fun to watch - visually appealing mannerisms and body language and a voice that truly befit his demeanour.
Easy to see why Ed was cast in the role of Lew Bookman. Enjoyed the story, premise and portrayals very much. Hardly anything to complain about in this episode. Solid 9 for me. |
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| Jayo |
Posted on December 23, 2005 08:55 pm
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Do you mean the animated Disney version, Dr Moreau? -------------------- My reality check bounced.
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| DrMoreau |
Posted on December 23, 2005 09:39 pm
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Yes, the Disney cartoon of 1951. Which also had Richard Haydn - Bartlett Finchley of A Thing About Machines, Sterling Holloway - Repair Man from What's in the Box, J. Pat O'Malley - Gooberman from Mr. Garrity and the Graves. Fine animated feature with lots of TZ stars in it. Still one of my Favorites from the Disney vaults. |
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| Jayo |
Posted on December 23, 2005 09:52 pm
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I may have to watch it again.
Who did the other Zone alum play? -------------------- My reality check bounced.
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| DrMoreau |
Posted on December 23, 2005 10:09 pm
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Richard Haydn is the Caterpillar, Sterling Holloway is the Cheshire Cat, and J Pat O'Malley is: Tweedledee, Tweedledum, The Walrus & The Carpenter.
Also note that Kathryn Beaumont - no relation to Charles - is the voice of Alice, the model they based Alice's drawings on & was also the voice of Wendy in Peter Pan. |
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| James B. W. Bevis |
Posted on October 04, 2006 07:26 pm
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A more prosaic point: The deleted line seems to conflict with Bookman's later line that "It would mean that for one moment in my whole life I would have done something successful." Hey, winning second prize in a flower show is a pretty successful moment, isn't it? Something that's bothered me for a while: Why does Bookman give the toy robots to Maggie and Ricky, but not the other kids? Is he just playing favorites or what? I suppose they could both have had birthdays recently. In Serling-Sutton's story version, Bookman doesn't give any kids toys, and there's no sign that any of the kids owns a toy robot. The toy that Maggie brings for Lew to fix is unidentified (i.e., not necessarily a robot). Edit: OK, now all the Season 1 episodes have received at least one comment this year. -------------------- If you post here, please read the new message board rules (effective July 4, 2009). Thanks.
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| StillValleyBard |
Posted on January 26, 2007 01:42 pm
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I dont remember rating this one so I'll go with a 7. Very good. Probably the best scene out of any zone is in the opening monologue when Death looks at the screen....genius. Best scene ever.
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| Major |
Posted on January 30, 2007 04:50 am
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Let Him Be, Let Him Have His Fun ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Major Posts: 8,874 Member No.: 87 Joined: January 26, 2005 |
I gave this one a 10 but one thing puzzles me. If Mr. Death made a deal with Lew that he doesn't have to accompany him until after he makes the pitch, Then why is Lew still able to see him? Remember, Mr. Death told Lew that since he won't accompany him, He was forced to select an alternative. At that point, The only person that should see him is Maggie.
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| Crown 85 |
Posted on January 30, 2007 08:21 am
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But he was SUPPOSED to go.
Perhaps once you see Death, he's always visible to you. -------------------- Room For One More
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